SOCOM Cancels Sniper System…Why?

…because a 300gr sniper bullet is a pipe dream…the desire for such a system belies a fundamental misunderstanding driven by the “bigs” trying to sell old technology with a new panache.  The fundamental misunderstanding has two parts:

  1. Ballistic coefficient as a design focus in sniper systems is erroneous;
  2. There is a subtle untruth that by increasing mass, aerodynamic performance will automatically improve due to the higher ballistic coefficient.

An incorrect corollary to this misunderstanding is the idea that a 300gr bullet will also have better terminal performance due to greater kinetic energy.  Let me explain.

First, the key property of a projectile is it aerodynamic stability.  Aerodynamic stability depends on ratios, not just mass alone.  This stability is rarely analyzed in bullet design because it’s difficult and costly.  Lead-core bullets are made using older methods that typically cannot keep the tolerances to make aerodynamic ratios precisely, and that’s another reason for the lack of focus.

Table 1: Changing Mass Only (this is not realistic, but what most people think will happen)
Mass (grains) 220 230 240 250 260 270 280 290 300 310  
Bullet drag coeff. 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3  
G1 drag coeff. 0.5191 0.5191 0.5191 0.5191 0.5191 0.5191 0.5191 0.5191 0.5191 0.5191  
I (form factor) 0.5779 0.5779 0.5779 0.5779 0.5779 0.5779 0.5779 0.5779 0.5779 0.5779  
d (diameter) 0.338 0.338 0.338 0.338 0.338 0.338 0.338 0.338 0.338 0.338  
   
BC 0.4760 0.4977 0.5193 0.5409 0.5626 0.5842 0.6058 0.6275 0.6491 0.6707  

Most people think like Table 1: ‘if I increase the mass, my BC will go up and I’ll have better performance.’ Table 1 also shows the common design approach focusing on a basic bullet shape, but adjusting the performance by increasing grain weight.  According to table 1, the results should be pretty good as the BC, which is commonly used as a measure for performance, goes up significantly.

In table 2, we consider changing only the mass of the bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2700fps.  In this case, realize that we don’t consider the aerodynamic properties which will degrade downrange velocity, so an aerodynamically superior design will have greater velocity on the target, and will more than offset the gains in mass.

Table 3 shows the results if we consider a change in velocity only.  Notice how velocity changes make up for the mass increases in table 2.  The additional benefit not shown in these tables is that the 236gr bullet will impact point on.  Plus, the metal used by Dynamic Research will not “splatter” like a lead core bullet will.

Table 2: Mass (at muzzle)
Mass 220 236 270 300
Velocity 2700 2700 2700 2700
Kinetic Energy (Joules) 4827 5179 5925 6583
Table 3: Velocity (at muzzle)
Mass 236 236 236 236
Velocity 2700 2900 3100 3300
Kinetic Energy (Joules) 5179 5974 6827 7736

The problem with the approach in Table 1 is that it doesn’t work.  What happens in reality when adjusting the mass of the bullet is that large trade-offs occur causes an increase in drag coefficient at a pace faster than the increase in mass.  This lowers the overall performance of the bullet.  Understand that the drag coefficient for a larger mass has to go up just because the additional mass must go somewhere.  But, the other thing that happens is a reduction in the ratios of aerodynamic stability due to increasing mass without the ability to increase diameter.  We’re stuck at .338, right?  So, there is an optimum weight for a given caliber bullet that matches the aerodynamic features.

We’ve managed to discover a balance of mass and drag at about 236grains.  With the aerodynamic properties at 236grains, if we can reduce the drag coefficient to, say 0.15, then this is pushing an equivalent BC of something greater than 1 as demonstrated in Table 4.

Table 4: More Realistic (not real data, example only)
Mass 236 300
CD (drag coeff) 0.15 0.4
Cg1 (g1 drag coeff) 0.5191 0.5191
I (form factor) 0.2890 0.7706
d (diameter) 0.338 0.338
 
BC 1.0213 0.4868

As you can tell, without changing the caliber, anytime you change the mass of the bullet, the drag properties will change significantly.  This means that bullet mass should be optimized for a given caliber’s aerodynamic performance, not optimized for BC, which is actually the same as optimizing mass for the best mass.  Doesn’t make sense, right?

Just ask a boxer and he will tell you speed kills.  Kinetic energy is mass x velocity (squared) times one-half.  So, increasing mass is actually less important than increasing velocity.  Even kinetic energy penetrators focus less on mass, and more on speed.  But they also focus on ensuring a point-first impact, which requires aerodynamic optimization, not mass or BC optimization.

The other thing that happens to a bullet in flight is that its velocity decreases much faster than its spin rate.  This is important because it causes the bullet nose to point upward as it starts on the downward side of its trajectory.  It means the bullet is flying like an airplane coming in for a landing, nose-up, instead of point-on trajectory.  This makes things even worse because bullets don’t have wings to stabilize, so the oncoming air stream causes the bullet aerodynamics to change wildly and unpredictably.

The way to avoid nose-up bullet flight is through aerodynamic design, changing the form factor to maintain high velocities downrange.  This does two things: 1. It keeps velocity high for greater kinetic energy; 2. It permits target interdiction point-on (many bullets will hit a target slightly or completely sideways at long distances).

Once again, kinetic energy should not be optimized using mass, it should be optimized using velocity which is performed by analysis of aerodynamic properties.

Going back to a 300gr design for a .338: it is not feasible to build a caliber-specific sniper system around a given mass.  The sniper system must be built around aerodynamic properties of a projectile first.  Then it must be implemented with appropriate metals to give the proper optimization of aerodynamic variables and weight.  Finally, the rifle itself is built around the projectile.  Oddly enough, the rifle, for most people, is the most expensive, most visible, and most desired item in a sniper system.  In my opinion, it’s the least important.

If you want long-range precision and accuracy, build the right projectile first.  Then fit the gun around the projectile.

Why did the PSR get cancelled?  They figured 300grains was the optimizing variable to improve sniper performance in a .338 caliber weapon.  I wish they would have asked Dynamic Research first, we’ve got what they need, but it’s not 300gr., it’s a 236 grain dose of reality that can repeatedly drill 10” groups at 2200m.

Thanks to everyone who continues to support our business and a new way of thinking about long range shooting.  We see a lot of movement in the market toward lathe turned bullets as competitors continue to marvel at our performance.  You should expect to see a lot of “me-too” lathe turned bullets coming out in the near future from other companies.  While we agree that lathe-turning is a key to consistency, you still won’t find the design characteristics, the know-how, and the field operator experience that has made our company what it is.

As always, we are excited to continue supporting the professional shooters who work so hard in the field, and the long-range competitors and hunters who help us move our research ahead.

-Dynamic Research, LLC

We’ve stopped publishing ballistic coefficients.  Here are a few reasons why:

1. We don’t sell a 1 pound projectile;

2. BC doesn’t mean anything past a short distance;

3. We zero our rifles well past the meaningul range of a ballistic coefficient;

4. We build our projectiles for group size and terminal performance, so all we really want to know is the MOA elevation adjustements needed to get on target;

5. If you are a serious long-range shooter, we can get you close on elevation setup, but you need to develop your own dope for you specific weapon system and environmentals.

6. BC focuses on sectional density because form factor is difficult for most people to understand.  However, sectional density has very little impact on performance at long ranges.  We’ve destroyed this myth through our own testing and can outperform heavier bullets because we optimize for drag coefficient and interior ballistics.  Our terminal performance testing shows our projectiles are a generation ahead of even heavier bullet of the same caliber.

7. Ballistic coefficient was developed before the age of aerodynamic science.  We’re moving on…10 shot group size, elevation setup…that’s exactly what you need to develop your data book…

My apologies for a long delay since our last posting.  Business is good even though the economy is still sort of sitting on the fence.  We’re also seeing increases in raw material pricing, but this forum is not about macro-economics, so let me tell you what I originally intended.

We’ve done additional testing and made some diameter changes to our .308 Predator to make improvements for a wider range of weapon systems.  Specifically, we’ve bumped the diameter up a couple thousandths to match typical bore diameters.  Previously we had been using a Palma design that worked extremely well out of our systems.  The Predator is designed for a broad range of rifles, so we wanted to stay true to that mission and we think you’ll enjoy even better performance.

As always, please continue to reach out to us with your stories and test results as we consider your feedback in design decisions.

Thanks to Jacob Satterfield of Southern Outdoor Experience TV,  www.watchsoe.com ,  for shooting our .338 and .308 projectiles.  In Jacob’s own words:

“I shot the .308 over the 4th weekend at 800 yards and was shocked. I have never seen any other projectile shoot as well as they did. No BS with a Savage 10BAS I had groups that were sub 1/2 MOA. I also shot the 338 Lapua with your Data and some tweeked a tad hotter and shot a steel plate at 400 just to get an idea and had a five shot test.  All five had punched a hole through the 3/4th plate. Can’t wait to shoot some mullies this year with the .308s. ”

Please visit www.watchsoe.com and check out a great rifle at www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10BASK .

 

Just an interesting note on integrating the .308 Predator with commercial rifles.  We’ve been testing with a Palma barrel on a custom built rifle and discovered something about both the barrels and the nature of solid projectiles.  Most people we talk to think that the solids should have a smaller diameter than a typical swaged bullet because of pressure problems.  What we found out, and this only applies to the specific metal we use in our projectiles, is that the opposite is true.  Please don’t think about this in the context of copper (which we do not use for several very good reasons). 

So, the Palma bore  is slightly smaller than widely-used commercial .308 rifles, and we have more than doubled the effective range of the .308 Winchester at this bore size.  Thing is, the .308 Predator is slightly sub-caliber.  So, you will get exceptional performance out of a Sako in .308 since they design their bores more like a Palma barrel.  But some of the other commercial rifles have larger bores, giving the Predator’s sub-caliber diameter a bit of a problem spinning up for a stable flight.  We’ve run into this with the 5R barrels as well.  Keep in mind, we’re talking in 10 thousandths here, so the fact that many commercial rifles don’t even have this tight of tolerance means you could be alright.  But for the high-end purchasers, your precise bore-size including tolerance is an important consideration as you start working beyond 1,000 yards with the .308 Winchester.

Hence, we are experimenting with an over-caliber design targeting the 5R specifically, and commercial rifles with larger bore-sizes secondarily.  Send us an email or post here if you have some thoughts or direct experience related to this.

The .375 Predator delivers serious performance out of a SnipeTac Rifle.  At 3200fps, the .375 Predator SnipeTac system delivered 3.5″ and 5″ groups at 1125 yards in 4-10mph wind.  Elevation adjustments were 21MOA, windage 1.5MOA (wind coming from 3 o’clock)

If you’re shooting a .375 SnipeTac, take at look at www.dynamicresearchllc.com and see for yourself.  Check out www.blackdiamondrifles.com  for a superior Rifle.  Get them both and you have an amazing weapon platform.  Here’s a couple YOUTUBE videos of the .375 Predator – SnipeTac Rifle System in action at a bit over 500 yards, watch carefully on the first video and see the trajectory:

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ39V1gN930

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItGATWJFPI

Predator Performance: Youtube video of Predator vs SMK using Barrett M98B .338 Lapua Magnum: We did not do this shoot or sponsor it, but stumbled across it and thought it was interesting. You might find it interesting too.

Welcome to the Dynamic Research Performance Notes page dedicated to the discussion of Predator Projectiles.  We intend to share our experiences and insight regarding our projectiles, how they fly, and how best to make them fly.  We might reveal some of the science behind our thinking, but we don’t feel compelled to do so.  The results speak for us. 

For competitors and handloaders, we want you to discover something you never thought possible.  For military users and friends of America, we want every shot to be exactly like the last one so that you can deliver repeatable consistency at longer range than normal.

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